Originally Posted by
Invisible Man
I thought 1900's post sounded a little disrespectful. You never hear them complain when they get there first airline job because someone gave up scope. Only when they realize they want to advance and that seat is no longer there.
As far as "just don't do it!". That sounds good but Scope is just one part of the contract. If pilots say they will not even open it (scope) then they will have to give somewhere else(pay,vacation,sick,work rules,etc.). Some pilots could not afford to give up anymore pay,vac.,sick,etc. and survive. So to save a higher paying job they caved on scope and other stuff. And before you say you will never get the planes back. It's not going to be easy to get anything back. When contracts open all you are going to here is "cost neutral"
This is also a two way street. Everyone say that majors sould not give up anymore scope. Well the reigonals should stop taking bigger and bigger planes. When the company says they want pay rates for 90,100,120 seat airplanes say NO! Tell them you do not want them.
wow, so in your give and take what did the airlines get in the last round of contracts. I'm sure it was give and take that time. name 1 thing that they got for loosening scope. was it lower pay, less sick time, lost work rules, lost vacation. wait I got it, it was they got to work more hours each month.
as for hearing new pilots complain that is just ridiculous. here's a thought if those airplanes had went to the major then more regional pilots would go their creating new jobs for future pilots at the regional. what do you want more major pilots or regional?
as for those last 2 sentences, please...