Children! Both of you stop it. This is embarrassing.

Please remember, in large part, ALPA is a volunteer organization. Most pilots who do a job there are not compensated. Those who are given trip drops, the returned pay is miniscule to the effort they put in. For a volunteer organization, we have a pretty good product.

Yes we pay dues, yes, the IT is antiquated, yes, the PDR system is old, but it does work. Kind of like the guppy.

I've done a lot of ALPA work and continue to do so as I'm sure some of you have. No matter your opinion, you just can't dump on people in a volunteer organization. If you do, then very shortly, you have no one to do the job. Is a badly done job better or worse than no one doing it?

Grow up both of you. And none of this drivel has anything to do with UAL management, title of this thread.