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Old 04-03-2017 | 08:14 AM
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Originally Posted by tbat15
Obviously all parties would be informed of what my situation was and I still think this is only shady if you tried to hide what you're doing or attempted to flee from a obligation. A large part of doing something like this would be to see if I even enjoyed an airline a career at all. I'd hate to toss a AD retirement down the drain and then find out that I don't really even enjoy working the job.
I'm glad to see your statement above, as I, too, thought it sounded shady AF. I still question if a program like this would, or should, enable a plan like you're suggesting, but if everything is out in the open, more power to you, I guess. I forget what you said in a previous post, but I imagine there are some pretty large service obligations following something like this.


Originally Posted by tbat15
They are proposing to allow a guy to leave service for a period of time to obtain a seniority number and then return to their military career. Win win for everyone involved.
This I just don't see happening - and this is the part I feel is shady. You're going to hire on, let's say for a year, get a seniority number, then bail for seven consecutive years..? Then you complete AD, get your retirement, and come back to your civilian employer after 7 years with 8 years of seniority..? You think that's a win win for everyone? You? No doubt about it! Your service branch? More so, depending on the additional service obligation, and how much retraining is required after 3 years away. Mainline - who could've hired you after you retired, but now has to pay you 8 years seniority for only 1 year of use (not to mention retraining after your years away)? I never see that happening. The guy sitting to your left who's been slogging it out doing his time for his reserve retirement who you're now senior to after being (back) on property for 24 hours since leaving 7 years ago? That would be some interesting conversation. IMO, this is nowhere similar to an employer hiring a member of the guard/reserves. I watched the link below in its entirety (I'll never get that 1:23 back). Other than making me really glad I'm no longer around the staff think tanks I used to sit in, I thought it was crazy when I heard Lt. Gen. Grosso mention what you're referring to. Perhaps I'm missing how this fixes a problem and how this benefits both sides of the equation, but I just don't see it.

https://www.c-span.org/video/?426158...pilot-shortage
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