Originally Posted by
AirBat
Your math isn't correct.
Our per diem rate is higher, take a look at your paycheck. You quoted the per diem at date of signing..
Also, we will get 100% deadhead, not yet but soon, I think it was DOS+5? Don't remember but it's in the CBA. So true that we don't have it now however very few pairings are built with much in the way of deadheads honestly.
Our per diem rate is not higher, according to section 5. We are not paying $1.90 until DOS+60 months. DOS+48 months is still $1.80. The other airlines are currently paying $1.90 even to someone new on property.
Next deadhead pay does not go to 100%, according to section 8 it just went up to 85% on May 1 with no language for further increase from how I read it. You're right though that we don't spend much time in the back, but again the question is top tier pay (meaning the best) right now 100% is the best out there in the regionals. I know at UA, they pay 150% if you are booked in a middle seat, but that is a legacy.
Originally Posted by
LGARunway44
Compass doesn't pay top tier and I acknowledge that as well. They also aren't paying for accepting career stagnation. I earn more at Compass than I would have at my old company with a bonus.
I'm glad pay is increasing and Compass will have to pay more when they need to. Still a small company and I can't imagine they will have trouble finding 20 people a month.
To be honest i'm just sick of seeing the attitudes people have on these boards. I was really happy to get hired here and it was a good place. It wasn't always a pleasure to fly with the flow pilots but many of them had perspective that is needed here now. Stop trying to scare everyone away. This message board is a terrible representation of this pilot group.
Acknowledging that we don't pay top tier is a step in the right direction. I think whoever is making the banners that pop up on APC needs to do the same, or if they would like to keep touting top tier pay execute the $41 per hour option.
As far as the attitudes, there are some which are overly negative, but I am going to borrow from what you said "it WAS a good place." Part of why people are feeling how they are is that when they were hired things were good. Now there have been changes which people are trying to process. It is no Mesa, but selling Compass as top tier pay will only further the problem you are seeing now. I think the appropriate way to market Compass to new hires is:
West coast domiciles (LAX, SEA)! Single fleet type E175. Great crews.
It's not a matter of scaring people off, if they come and find it is not what they expected they will leave. My guess is the FO attrition labeled NA accounts for that. I know there is a Compass pilot in Endeavor training.
You are correct that there needs to be perspective. The 175 is a good aircraft, the pay is decent, we have a contract and there have been no furloughs. On the other hand I think this forum is to discuss relevant issues especially for people considering an airline out of CFIing or making a switch, not about who we will get flow to, like Hawaiian as funny as that may be (also lightening the mood). So it is important to state the facts. We are talking about pay. Hopefully this discussion helps people think about what to look for in our next contract.