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Old 05-11-2017 | 05:50 AM
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Originally Posted by JohnBurke
I had about seven thousand hours when I was hired with my first airline, but that's quite irrelevant.
It's irrelevant, but yet here it is

Originally Posted by JohnBurke
I said nothing of self, nor did I express any level of pride in opinion. You did, just now.
"Pathetic" Uh...ok...



Originally Posted by JohnBurke
Seeking out the bare minimum qualification, however, has never been a hallmark of professionalism.
So I wait until I have 7000 hours flying a Navajo or KA around and now I'm professional? Mmmm...


Originally Posted by JohnBurke
As for the market deciding adequacy of experience, also untrue. The regionals have long been bottom feeders, paying as little as possible (see a theme there?), and often get those who seek out to do the bare minimum, as a result.
So you're saying the market has no bearing on the mins operators hire at? Other than legally mandated mins, I'm not sure how you make this argument - or maybe I'm inferring something you're not implying..? I need to hire 25 pilots a month, I receive 100 applications per month vs. I scrounge for applicants, send mailers based on the airman database, etc. Just because you chose to pull yourself from the market (which I commend you for in some sense if that's what you did way back when) you're still off the market. I'm not arguing pilot shortage, just market segment shortage here. And I absolutely think it affects initial hiring qualifications.

I don't see your connection with regionals, pay, and pilots hired by them seeking to get by with the bare minimum. So anyone in any profession should pass on a job where they are minimally qualified, go do something else not as closely related, and then come back when they are more qualified? I want to fly 121 at a 'respectable' mainline operator. I don't have the experience for them to look twice at my app. I can get hired by a regional - 3000TT, but only 1000 airplane, and 125 ME - but I shouldn't because it's unprofessional and I'm seeking the bare minimum? Please explain this one more.

Not trying to get in a pi$$ing match - you have way more experience in the airplane/civilian side - I do enjoy hearing opposing viewpoints. I just feel like you're painting with a really broad brush and may be a bit biased by the path you followed.
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