Originally Posted by
BravoPapa
Is it the same way with Endeavor and Delta? Are you treated just like a Delta employee for flying, etc?
/\ /\ /\ This is hysterical. The answer is No.
Having worked for both envoy and Endeavor, I can tell you that the non-rev privileges (flight benefits) at the AA wholly owned regionals are far superior than those who fly for Delta.
At AA, envoy, PSA, and Piedmont, when you list for a flight, you can see exactly the amount of seats that are available in real time as well as who is eligible for the flight deck jumpseat (pilots) and cabin jumpseats (flight attendants). Your priority on the standby list is based solely on time of check in; which can be done up to 24 hours prior to departure. It doesn't matter if you worked for AA for 30 years or just started at envoy last week, whoever checked in first, goes first.
Delta has a fairly complex hierarchy when it comes to who goes where on standby lists. As well as a system that doesn't seem to be able to tell us exactly how many passengers are on a given flight.
On Delta operated flights, Delta employees and their families go above everyone else on the standby list (in order of date of hire). Then come delta retirees and their families, then Endeavor and our spouses and parents, then those who fly for other Delta regionals, then buddy pass riders (we do not get buddy passes).
Contrary to what the above poster said, on an Endeavor airplane, we get placed on the list by date of hire mixed in with the Delta employees. So while Delta employees will ALWAYS go ahead of us on Delta flights, we DO NOT always go ahead of them on our own flights. It doesn't matter if someone was hired at Delta last week and you've been at endeavor since its creation, they will always go ahead of you on a Delta flight. Your only hope of getting ahead of a Delta employee on an Endeavor flight would be if you were hired before them.
When selecting a flight, they publish "available" seats and "authorized" seats. A lot of the time, between heavily traveled routes you'll see available seats as a negative number and authorized seats as a greater negative number, yet more often that not, a handful of standbys will get on the flight.
Unlike the AA system, there is no indication of who is a Pilot or a Flight attendant on the list so you're left in the dark as to whether or not you stand a chance to make on the flight deck jumpseat until you arrive at the gate. Additionally, as a pilot listing as a non-rev, you are not automatically placed on the jumpseat list in case you cant make it on in the main cabin.
Below is an example of a flight yesterday from ATL to DTW
It shows -4 avaiable and -2 authorized yet 15 non-revs (the S2s, S3s and S3Bs) got on the flight. Its great that they got on but when all you can see beforehand is the numbers -4/-2, it makes it very difficult to get an idea of what your chances are.
