Originally Posted by Choppersnplanes

I've worked for both Envoy and Endeavor. Envoy does not even compare to Endeavor. Yes Envoy has the flow, they had it when I started in 2011 and my class is still 4 years from flowing. It is very hard to get hired off the street to American if you work for Envoy so plan on spending a decade before you flow. If you live in base for Envoy, don't mind making less money, 6 month wait to complete training or the crappy management then by all means go to Envoy.