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Old 08-24-2017, 03:07 PM
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Originally Posted by pat003 View Post
Do you think that it would be offered to new hires or that most of the current fo's would just transfer once the move is made, either through a vacancy bid or be forced to go through a displacement notice?

If it would be offered to new hires, in what month will it be on the bid sheet, in the September classes or later in the October classes? Guessing it wont matter since it'll probably go to the over 40s group, but thought i'd ask.

I don't think anyone can honestly answer your first question. It's all speculation at this point. It'll depend on a number of factors. How large will the base be? Will they move planes out of the 44 we will have on property or will they exercise more options? How many pilots would prefer to commute to ORD vs. DFW?

If the base as large as Ric supposedly said, a vacancy won't cover it. Guys just won't go for it. They'd rather stay in DFW.
Also, there will be an increase of ORD flying on the 175 if it's that large. I'm assuming the bulk of that will be from Air Wisconsin? ORDinary would have a better guess than I would as he's based there. I'm there about once a month.
Also, if they move about half the fleet to ORD, who is going to pick up the slack in DFW? Not Mesa. Maybe they'll bring more 140s back, but most of the current 175 routes are not routes the 140 would fly. This leads me to believe that AAG will exercise more options for the 175. So I think a displacement would not only be expensive but unnecessary.
Even if they don't exercise options though, a displacement would be expensive. There's no guarantee for the company that everyone displaced would bid ORD 175. Some might, but I think most would prefer the QOL of being based in DFW. If that's the case, they would have to train a large amount of pilots on the 145. TDY just makes economical sense.

As for when ORD 175 would be offered to new hires? No idea. Depends on what the next vacancy bid consists of, how many take it, and when it would open.


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