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Old 10-05-2017 | 05:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Arado 234
aa73,

I seriously doubt that a change of union is going to change the DNA of this pilot group. Talk to ALPA members and you have similar reactions to attitude and lack of accountability over there. Remember our $3600 APA dinner? Happened over there on the ALPA side, too. I think the problem is (and I'll get a lot of heat over this) mainly generational. The standard "you'll be senior one day" doesn't work anymore, since a LOT of new hires had to spend years (some 10+) at regional airlines that were only intended to keep you employed for a max of 1 to 2 years (pre 9-11).

Talk to some LUS pilots and get a different perspective. If you want change, it has to come from within. ALPA is not going to fix people like TW in DFW who seems to milk the whole system. I am afraid that his perks will only increase with ALPA. The similarity to the pigs in "Animal Farm" seems to become more and more clear.

If you want change, DO something. Most of us didn't even bother to vote.
You hit the nail on the head: “you’ll be senior one day”. It’s an empty promise. The LAA LUS LAWA saw the end of seniority. I speak from my experience on the line. The new hire pilots are overwhelmingly helpless and ambivalent to these unity/union promises for their future while they are just wanting to take care of their new families and spend time at home rather than getting involved (other than voting). They see what’s happening to our group and they are making the decision to wait for us to die off and start fresh when they get enough here to make a difference. Unfortunately these changes in the contract they want will be elusive in 2020 and they will be elusive in the years after that. Line in the sand demands like the LOS for LAA furloughs just saw to that prophesy. The Company has moved on. I’m moving on....for many years to come I plan on doing the best job I can for this company and in return my “seniority” means I get a lot of great stuff for the MOST part.

It used to be about “union” and unity in the past for me. No more. APA, ALPA, USAPA, blah blah blah. All hot air. Just keep spinning in the wind.
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