Originally Posted by
nimslow
I'll wager Delta pays you for that time you are studying systems, since it's after you start training. and all. Thats the way it's done at my shop. Initial systems is home study, before training starts, but we get paid for it. I'm not sure how it works for new hires, but if we change equipment, we get 50% of our hourly rate for the programmed home study hours.
Four sims seems crazy for someone without any prior bus experience. I think we got 7, then the maneuvers validation and LOE (check ride).
We get two weeks of VFD/CPT including a few sessions in the sim, with the motion off before the systems test and start of sim.
We also don't do orals, it's a computer based "electronic systems validation". Much better than stump the dummy style orals.
I love the "sack up" comments. So much ancestor worship in this industry, or the "that's the way it was when I flew the Convair/-9/727, etc, so thats the way it needs to be now".
Well lets not conflate these two thing; "sack up" isn't meant to point out that our training program is detailed and all inclusive of what a new hire will need to know. However guys are passing this program as we speak and 1700 on the list now have passed the program, so it can be done with some concentrated effort and study before you show up.
With anything in life, complaining and blaming others for your possible shortcomings will never be received well once above the age of 6.
A contrary to those who like to blame our instructors, every one I have dealt with has been great at what they do. But don't blame instructor if they can't take a low time/experience pilot and make them pass a type ride in 4 sims; some things are just outside of their skill set of techniques.