Originally Posted by Lincoln Osiris

Well why don't you call or e mail then because the last 3 times I've called the 3 answers I have gotten are the same 3 things I mentioned prior (not exact phraseology about the twiddling of the thumbs but you get the idea). I wouldn't say my talking points are weak I am just stating facts that need to be taken into consideration so we can wake up out of fantasy land. The company has ZERO incentive to move on anything we ask, that is just a fact, no one wants to hear that but its true. If stating pure facts make me a "troll" to make you feel better than fine by me, but I am a member of this pilot group, one of us, I am just looking at the stone cold numbers instead of "feelings" and "what we deserve", because the company could give a crap about either no matter how much we complain and do phone polls and pickets.