Originally Posted by
rickair7777
How many? I'd like to know. And some names too, you'd think after a decade I'd know some of them...
Actually I know of a few who maybe shouldn't even still be flying 121... but they didn't lie. That's the big thing, don't lie...
File an asap and plead the fifth, or come clean and confess but don't lie.
Not saying it wouldn't be nice to have a union for disciplinary proceedings, but I never saw a huge problem with honest mistakes.
IMO these are not honest mistakes...
- Sitting ORD reserve at Incline Village.
- Departing the pavement and then trying to power-back out of the dirt (in an airplane not approved for power-back).
- Going off the end because you fudged the LDG numbers... after the correct LDG numbers said you didn't have enough RWY.
What I'm trying to say is that if there was another case like DD's you'd probably never know because the odds of that happening again (management learned that lesson) to someone who can be unemployed and fund their own defense at the tune of tens of thousands will more than likely never happen again. But I'm pretty sure that smaller issues go unsettled because there is no representation on retainer to deal with them while the pilot deals with flying and earning a living. Just having that is a huge deterrent and it keeps management more honest and from dealing with pilots on an ad-hoc basis.
As for pilot tricks, they usually get some time off without pay to think about it. But that's after exercising (if they choose) their contractually binding grievance process.
A union is like voting. Everyone has the right to vote along with all your other constitutional rights. But you cannot exercise that right until you register to vote. Having the a union is like registering to vote. That right is there for you but only after you've registered. Otherwise, you are deferring your right to someone else.