Originally Posted by
GodIsGood
The recruiting department has never lied about flow or upgrade. They said the upgrade time was going to drop to 2.5 years when it was, at that time, 8.5 years. Everyone said we were liars then and it's now dropped to weeks. Did anyone make any apologies after publicly defaming the recruitment department and it's team? Nope.
In regards to flow, the recruitment department has always used the minimum flow numbers(metering numbers) to determine the 6 year flow. Its now increasing because of the size of new hire classes and the department admits that. But that assumes that nobody leaves to the other legacies over the next 6-8 years.
Use the flow as a backup and a way to consistently move up the seniority list while at Envoy. That's the part of the flow nobody ever talks about. Who doesn't want to be at an airline where they move up at least 25 numbers every month!? Plus you have attrition to other airlines. If a new hire can't live with an 8 year flow right now, than go somewhere else. Enjoy the slower upward movement, longer upgrades, and no back-up plan. Nobody is tricking anyone into coming to Envoy!
I do agree with the majority of your opinion but I am willing to bet that, NEVER has any recruiter stated the truth about our QOL and demeaning nature of our corporate leaders and personnel. Yes the flow is good, but why does our flow have to be the excuse to the abusive natured personnel? If only the toxic environment of our leadership could be cleansed. Not following the contract, abusive relationship with labor groups, below standard pay scales, constant degradation of morale, etc. is all.....ALL in the hands of the top people here. No one is talking “entitlements” here. I’m talking items that were agreed upon and should be honored to every word. Not interpreted. But I don’t expect Envoy to because after my long tenure here, they never have. No honor whatsoever.
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