Originally Posted by
BusterBust
You sure about that? You sure a 5 hour min duty period wasn’t also the final ALPA proposal as well? The only difference being that ALPA wanted implementation on day 1 and the company wanted it when PBS was implemented. You sure? Because the ALPA NC website says they are both 5 hours for the min duty period.
It’s unknown if/what ALPA will ask for in the form of a min duty period with any inclusion in PBS, but as of now, the last ALPA proposal had a 5 hour min duty period, as did the company.
I won’t end with some smart “educate yourself” line like you chose to. Instead I suggest you visit the Spirit ALPA website and review the final offer we gave to the company and where we differ and where we agree. This is our most recent offer we presented. Guess what, we both have presented 5 hour min duty days. So the statement of it not being an ALPA proposal is inaccurate.
Let’s say you are selling your airport car for an asking price of $2000. I offer you $2000 if you throw in that extra set of tires you had just bought for it. At this point in the negotiating process, would you say that we have agreed on the sale price of $2000? Of course not. My offer was contingent on you throwing in those (new) tires. You could probably get a couple extra hundred dollars for those on Craigslist.
Same with the company offer vs the ALPA offer.
ALPA’s proposal was for 5 hrs min credit per duty period. WITH THE INCLUSION of 1:3.5 trip rig, 1:2 Duty rig (1:1.75 for nighttime ops), and retaining the 22 hr layover rig.
The company proposal was, as you said, 5 hrs min per duty period after PBS implementation, and retain the 22 hr layover rig.
To further argue my point: If you go back to your ALPA email from 9/14 and look at the comparison guide, you’ll notice at the top it says “Major differences between ALPA’s final proposal and that of Spirit.” Why would both sides say “retain 22 hour layover rig”? If we agreed on it, then why is it even mentioned? Because it’s not agreed upon any more than the sale price of $2000 for your car.
I’m sorry to be so blunt with you, but you hit a nerve in me when you appear to be arguing on the side of PBS by using the argument that the 5 hour min per duty period will somehow save the day.