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Old 01-25-2018 | 08:01 PM
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SheepDogg
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Originally Posted by ORDinary
Might be true, but the bigger worry for civilian OTS hires is that flows and military pilots take up the vast majority of AA's new hires. They hire from regionals, they even hire from WO, but the total numbers are small.
AA's current trend for OTS Civilian hires is around 9%. AA hired about 75 OTS civilians last year. That is pretty competitive. About a third of those 75 would fall into the non white male category. If you are a white male without some significant connection or quality, your chances of OTS hire at AA, regardless of your current employer is pretty slim. Envoy's flow could realistically take 7 - 10 years but its still, imo, a better bet than the chance you could be among the 400 civilian white males that will get hired OTS in that time frame.

Envoy's current flow system didn't develop overnight. It has been the evolution of several negotiation periods. PSA and PDT have both negotiated improvements to their flow. APA has been able to negotiate several contractual gains outside of Section 6 negotiations. If I were an Envoy pilot, I think I would be badgering Envoy's MEC to do the same.
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