Originally Posted by Industry Strnd

As a recap for anyone thinking of applying at ATI, ABX, or Atlas...



ATLAS..management has prolonged negotiations, substandard pay, sued the pilots, end up in the desert in countries you didn't even know existed.



ATI, you won't be one who crossed a picket line but for the rest of your career pilots will associate you as you might have crossed...you wont be one who voted for a substandard contract but pilots won't know that. Work 16 days in a row and then be told you have to work more days, weak alpa union who let's alpa national and management lead them around. No scope on wide bodies. Virtually no retirement and rates that fall well short of real airlines.



Abx, low 1st year pay, 17 day schedules, no kcm, no hotel or perdiem during training, management that hates pilots, losing airplanes, no new contract in sight!



The amazon dream doesn't exist there is no sign of Amazon buying any of these carriers nor is there any public announced growth. Matter of fact all of these carriers are under staffed for the flying they current try to do. If you love being told you have to work extra days for the lowest pay in the industry come here.



If you're thinking about coming to one of these carriers maybe think twice. There are plenty of carriers that have rewarded their pilots with industry standard contracts but not these places!



Did I miss anything?



Oh yeah 12 hour ready reserve.



Anything else?