Originally Posted by
BZC17
So you are not interested in more pay? Please stay away from the union at all costs. Your type of thinking is how we got so far behind in wages/total comp pre last contract.
I love this place but call a spade a spade. You make money on reserve and you can pick up first year but after that it’s work to pick up. It’s being on your phone swapping trips and bidding open time. It’s picking up out of base and commuting. It’s extra time you are away from your family. A normal person with normal family commitments is not going to average 120-130 trips for very long and still have a family.
It seems you’re not understanding the correlation or importance of work rules vs. pay rate.
Since the topic here was reserve, let’s talk about it:
Delta reserve: ALV-2 hours. Let’s call it 78 hours x $88/hour or $6,864/month. If I’m not mistaken, their reserve obligation is 18 days a month.
United reserve is 73 hours, but I believe they get more credit if they get converted to short call, so let’s call it 76 hours x $85/hour or $6,460/month. I believe they also are on the hook 18 days a month.
American reserve is 76 hours (all short call) at $88/hour which comes out to $6,688/month. I believe they’re also 18 days on reserve per month.
None of their pilots make anything above those numbers while on reserve unless they actually go over their guarantee.
Now here come the underpaid industry-laggards at Southwest with our converted rate of $79/hour using 79 hour “guarantee” as listed on APC or $6,241/month and we are on the hook 15 or 16 days a month with at least 15 off on reserve.
Money-wise... unlike at every other airline and unlike how it was here prior to this contract, our reserve pilots get paid extra every time they show up to work. I’ve seen first year guys on reserve here do as high as 135 TFP without picking up, but more commonly between 100 and 115 TFP. Let’s go with 108 TFP or 94 hours as a mean figure using converted figures. 94 hours x $79/hour comes out to $7,426/month, compared with Delta’s $6,864; American’s $6,688; United’s $6,460.
Hourly rates vs. work rules....
So when I say I want you to keep up a good fight for that “hourly”, I really mean it.
