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Old 04-28-2018 | 06:49 AM
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putzin
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Originally Posted by GoCats67
A 2015 hire would be on or about to go on 4th year pay here at UA. The FO 4th yr pay rates are as follows:

777/787/767-400 = $201/hr
767-300/757-300 = $166/hr
757-200/737-8,9/A320 = $162/hr
737-7/A319 = $155/hr

401k = 16%
Profit Sharing was additional 6.1% for 2017
12 days off a month minimum
73 hr reserve gaurantee
5 hr/ calendar day guarantee, trip rigs 1 hr for every 3.5 way minimum, as well as backside of the clock pay protections .... Not sure of your work rules so difficult to get into too much here.
Not sure of Spirit's Medical/Dental/Ins stuff so difficult to compare there as well.

We just had a large vacancy bid open yesterday, so come next week we will have a better idea what a 2015 hire can hold by this Fall, but everyone is speculating that in SFO and prob LAX and EWR the 777/787 FO bids will go well below a 2015 hire, so the top pay rate above would be in play. Before this vacancy bid, the bottom 777/787 FO in the system is about 1500 seniority numbers up from the bottom of the seniority list, so that is prob a 2014 or early 2015 hire?? That junior pilot is still another 2000ish seniority numbers from junior Captain, again before the current vacancy bid gets closed. NB Captain rates at yr 4 are 255+/hr.

With all that said, by far the most important part of a QOL discussion is do you live where you are based?? If one airline has a base where you live (or want to live) and the other does not, the discussion on QOL is over!!

Good info... As for QOL and being based where you live, ALWAYS remember bases can close and you'll never be disappointed. Well maybe alittle, but it makes it easier if you've accepted that reality prior to the announcement.
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