Originally Posted by
NoValueAviator
There's a fundamental misunderstanding here I think. Envoy isn't competing with American Eagle in 2008 to attract pilots, it's competing with Endeavor, Republic, etc. in 2018. It will ultimately need to offer a competitive package, regardless of whether anyone in the pilot group feels that new FO's should be punished so they "can know what it's like."
There is a waiting period for a class date for the top 2 “regional” carriers with waiting period of 3 months. Just for a slot to start class. Not much leverage there to request a “competitive” package, unless the company wants something really bad.
1. Endeavor- classes full till July
2. Envoy- is only taking DEC immediately and filling remaining slots as needed with Cadet & RTP folks, and some are waiting a few months out for a class date.
So please tell me how you would negotiate with management that they NEED to be competitive with Endeavor, Republic, AWC, PDT, PSA.