Originally Posted by
Jetunderwing
We need a separate union and split this company up. The protected pilots and lifers can give the dues they pay to ALPA for shiny picket signs for JetBlue, WestJet and Frontier. Well over half the seniority list has been at Envoy not American Eagle flying Jetstreams and ATRs for 2 years or less. The protected pilots calling the majority of this pilot roster coddled children shows how inept and inept the contract they voted in is. Well over half the list is being punished for the gain of the protected pilots, time for the coddled children as I guess we are called to do something, and since we have the numbers it shouldnt be hard.
Yes! I agree with you! Let's have 2 separate unions. One for the PP's and those who actually understand what's expected of them at work, we'll call it ALPA. And the other for the ones that are mad that they have to pay taxes on their golden ticket; we'll call it BBU (Bernie-Bro's United).
-ALPA: The old codgers that sacrificed pay and vacation, saw a shrinkage loss of 1500 pilots and 5 bases, 2 years reserve and 7 year upgrade, displaced more than once as 5 bases closed, and parked fleets.
These will be the guys and gals who stuck around and fought for their airline and pilot group during all of this and eventually forced in (AND GET TO KEEP) sign-on bonuses, and retention bonuses (which the PP get none of) for you today, hotels in base, free commute (used to have to pay the seat tax on D2's), improved commuter policy, improved (though not perfect) flow-through, and almost instant upgrade. The pilots in this group keep all of the current contract benefits, including the benefits in this latest LOA. The good things that you enjoy today were bought and paid for by these folks. That's why you're here... You're welcome.
-BBU: The 30 or so FO's that got hired in the last 2 years that want their pay and benefits but are hiding out on reserve so they don't have to fly and upgrade to CA in LGA.
Since they love reserve so much, they get to stay on reserve for 2 years, at the wonderful 2012 post BK FO pay scales, with no risk of holding a pesky a line with defined schedule.
No more bonuses to have to pay those nasty taxes on.
No more having to deal with company paid in-base hotels like 4-points, or Hilton. Now you can book and pay for the choice hotel of your choosing. Such fine accommodations that will fit your budget, like the Motel 6, Super 8, Quality Inn, ect...
You get to pay back sign on bonuses, as well as retroactively pay back the difference of year 1 and the year 3 FO pay that you got from day 1, that way you are no longer beholden to the company, and are a free Ze!
You pay the seat tax for all of your D2's on AA branded flights (excluding jumpseat). This will assure you some familiarity in the cockpit from the jumpseat, so that you don't have pay the seat tax in the back. You'll need this, so that you don't forget what line pilots do at work, while you live the good life, chilling in your crashpad on reserve.
You will be locked in as an FO (capped pay at 4 year scale) for at least 7 years, so you don't have to be unfairly forced into that horrible wretched CA seat and assume those pesky professional pilot responsibilities.
Best part is, you get to keep the fabulous OLD flow agreement, at 30% of AA new hires / month, metered to 15 / month, whichever is less.
Oh, and you get 2 whole shiny bases, of AA's choosing.
Great idea man! Now get out there and get em' signed up!