Originally Posted by llws

His/her point is that while there is absolutely nothing wrong that new-hire FOs have it way better than the PPs did during their first half decade here, the complaining and lack of appreciation for that position that said new-hire is in, comes off as an aggrandized form of entitlement.

"The industry has changed". Now where have I heard that one before? Hint: Pinnacle.

By all means, let's fight for better pay and QOL. By all means, let's communicate frustrations regarding the lack of willingness to negotiate said improvements on the part of the company and/or AAG.

What gets intolerable is the incessant complaining (for complaining's sake) on the part of the new-hires directly to or in front of those here who have had it a hundred times worse. There will be no sympathy-- It's not "butthurt". It's an unwillingness to tolerate the whining. If you think things need to be improved, get involved with the process. Volunteer for a union position. LISTEN to those who are more experienced. ASK questions that will help improve all our lives. Appreciate what the PPs have been through, and they will appreciate that the current climate definitely calls for improvements in both the short and long term, for everyone on property.

As I've said before, no PP wants everyone to endure the same awful conditions as they've gone through. Improvements even at the new-hire level are still improvements and help the industry as a whole. But for god's sake, don't start the first conversation of a 4-day with a veteran CA you've never met by complaining about money, reserve, commuting, time to upgrade (it's too fast), etc.

We're glad the new guys are here, and more keep showing up. We just ask they extend the same courtesy to those who have endured everything from before and since the bankruptcy.