Originally Posted by
okieskies99
Lee, what you’re saying is correct except in the case if you’re coming off a trip and are on long call. You need 12+45 from debrief before reporting for the next trip unless assigned prior to block in.
On the check-in for DH, I don’t go off if when the latest I’m allowed to check in, I go off of when the required pairing report time is.
Sometimes it is only a few minutes difference, but that few minutes has saved me before when they tried to give me an illegal assignment.
While I am well aware of the provisions of 5-E and 5-F, that wasn’t the discussion.
In the case of the 12+45 scheduled in base duty break directed by 5-E-3, you should see that reflected in the FIFO list as R xxxx/date where xxxx is the 12+45 added on to your trip release time.
Simply stated, it gives you an extra 45 mins before you would be legal to report for a trip or FSB. And you are correct, they shouldn’t assign a trip/FSB with a report prior to that time.
If they gave you a short call right after release from a trip, that would be legal with the minimum 10 hours (or 12 hours if assigned after 1800). You just couldn’t be assigned a trip that required a report earlier than the time I described above.
I won’t go into the 5-F-3 actual ops 10+45 min in base break since we are talking reserve here.
And we are talking about Basic requirements. Global has different required minimum times.
Regarding DHD, any FDP that starts with a DHD should reflect a 30 min report time which sat arts your FAR117 FDP clock on the assumption that you have a flight you are later operating that doesn’t have an intervening rest period.
Lee