Originally Posted by Thedude86

While you may not necessarily be wrong....let’s break it down

1. Even if Endeavor has some 20 hour trips paying 19 hours I will gladly give up an hour here and there if it means I’m going to credit 20 hours more at the end of the month. Reference my post about us getting 18 days off and only crediting 65 hours while Endeavor and Republic gets 18 days off and credits 85. If that’s what taking an hour away from a trip looks like well, I don’t understand the math at the end of the month, but I’ll take it!!

2. Besides reserve, I guess it’s still possible to only credit 75 hours with 11 days off with PBS. Although, after reading their threads and talking to a few buddies there I would say that’s pretty rare. I’ve read some Endeavor FOs are making close to 100k if theyre willing to work. I have a buddy that’s a junior captain there and he says it’s not hard to credit 115 hours with 15 days off. I’ve only been here 3.5 years and I’d be making 130k per year if we had their pay rates and work rules.

3. I too average about 5 hours per day at the end of SAP. Based on my early statement that makes sense. 18 days off. Working 13 days at 5 hours per day equals 65 hours. But again, Republic and Endeavor are getting those same 18 days off but crediting 85. I’m on the 4 year pay scale at PSA. if I was at Endeavor I’d be around 92 bucks an hour. For me to make the same as an Endeavor captain with our crappy soft pay, premium pay, min day, etc. I’d have to make about 120 an hour with the same days off to come out even at the end of the month. And in my earlier post, I mentioned if you choose to work more that pay difference becomes greater and greater since they credit so much more per day.

And yes, United and a lot of the majors have a min day of around 5 hours. That doesn’t mean that’s what you’re getting at the end of the month based on how many days you work. Their min day is 5. That would mean a 4 day only pays on average 20 hours there. When in reality most of their 4 days pay 25-30 hours. Same as Republic and Endeavor. Like I said in my earlier posts, if we had a min day day of just 4 hours that would give me 4-7 hours more per month without changing anything else. Yes I average 5 hours at the end of the month, but there’s still several days that only pay 2.5 or 3 hours on the first or last day of a trip because of our crappy min day rules.

4. Guys made bank in 2014, but they were actually making bank based on PSA standards. What guys were crediting in 2013 and 2014 is about what Endeavor and Republic are making NOW and they don’t have to game the system in order to do it like they had to at PSA back then.

5. I don’t think camper was referring to chief pilots when he mentioned management. My interaction with our chiefs has been positive. I think he was referring to upper management given their reluctance to raise pay to competitive wages and hurt our QOL by forcing you to upgrade into random outstation bases with a two leg commute.