Ok this thread is spent....It has a very FI esque look to it and I dont see any other worthwhile contributions entering the ring.

There are also around 4 infraction worthy posts in here as well and those of you know who you are.

again: You can not post anything that directly insults another member no matter what your personal oppinions of them are and you can not use profanity no matter how many asterisks you use to hide it.

Clean it up