Originally Posted by
Pedro4President
No one is pulling up the ladder. We did make it better for the next guy. Reserve is a fraction of what it use to be. Pay is 3x what it use to be. Unlimited commuter hotels for three months for LGA and A passes. Seriously what are you talking about? New guys get to upgrade without a seat lock or CA pay from day one.
So yeah I laugh when I hear the new guys complain because they didn't get the 175 or reserve was six or eight months in DFW. And to be honest I'm glad you had a good experience.
I agree with much of what you just said with exceptions
Market forces were the primary driver and justification for the changes listed above with the help of hardworking men & women industry-wide of course. Both company and union members (both old and new members) have benefited.
Envoy could NOT produce the outcome it has for AAG if those old Rsv rules & old pay rates you mentioned existed today. The business is better managed than it use to be, the economy is totally different from it use to be. It was not just Aviation industry’s suffering back then! One way or another things would have changed! Either flow or pay or both.... We got a little bit of both.
Market leverage. Without it you would have been right. Things “could” have been better back then. Luck, timing, market forces. Hell you will flow to mainline before we know it and take your place amongst the Aviation God.
It’s ok to ask for more and expect more, than what it use to be. I’m sure in yester year it was said how lucky you guys were and how it use to be more “Ratchet” at some early point in your career.
My point is it’s ok to expect more, dream bigger, fight, and keep fighting expecting more better. NH’s are not satisfied, that’s great for our industry! It’s not complaining, hell many more folks should have been complaining years ago, but market forces did not allow it. Now they do!
“It’s a new day in America.” ~ Pres. Ronald Regan