Yes. But some guys just want to be negative and look at what they don't have or didn't get, instead of what they have now. I've been here 23+ years and its as good now as it was when we have 2 year guppy Captains in the late 90s. Now we have two new-hire classes a month with 40 pilots in each class. I think from now to 2020 its going to be pretty nice with a lot of movement while we have 20+ 787s being delivered in the next 24 months, monthly vacancy bids, and lots of retirements.

Bottom line if guys can complain when things are this good, they are going to complain all the time.