Originally Posted by chinookwinds

DON”T THINK SO. I am a 12 year Captain and the overall merits of this contract DO NOT deserve ratification. And with a little over 7 years left in my career, I could take the money and run. I will not vote in favor of this agreement and sell fellow junior pilots out with this TA.

From another thread I posted on and to voice my opinion.
I just got through going through our TA again from front to back.
I also just reviewed Spirits new contract the same way. Since we are being compared to Spirit in so many ways i.e.; discussions with reps, roadshow. “our rates are spirit +1%.
If every frontier pilot had a copy of the current Spirit contract I think most would realize how subpar this agreement really is. I would list all the pros and cons here, but the list is way to long. Just a few items for mention. Some are small, but in the overall big picture it all adds up.
Here are just a few of our short comings in comparison to our closest peer group
LTD-own occupation, pilot insurance cost for 60 months
+ 2hrs pay for FTD extensions
Hotel buyback program ($50) If you don’t use the hotel
$75 extra pay for working some holidays
Passport renewal-paid
Provisions for surface transportation- hourly/AAA at 43MPH
Entire section for the training department
Sick bank pay out provisions at retirement
2/1 Duty rig
Extra duty day for >24 hour layover
Seniority based premium flying folders, X list <2 days, Y list < 3hours followed by Junior assignment. All at 200%
Only Spirit pilots fly the airplanes; Frontier can still utilize contract pilots to ferry AC to and from MX facilities. Thought that went away.
We can’t touch a lot of their scheduling provisions.
AND A HUGE ONE; WHY DID WE NOT ADDRESS THIS!! I CALL BS!!!
E. Vacation Postponements
1. The Company may not cancel a pilot’s scheduled vacation. If Company operations necessitate the postponement of vacations, the Company shall first solicit volunteers for such postponement. If there are insufficient volunteers for such postponement, the Company may make such postponements mandatory.
2. Voluntary postponements shall be awarded in seniority order. Involuntary postponements shall be awarded in reverse seniority order by position.
3. Pilots whose vacations are postponed may select a vacation from open vacation time available during the current year or carry it over as unpostponable vacation to the following year. Vacation time carried over to the next year as a result of a Company postponement shall not be subject to a carryover cap. In no case will a pilot’s vacation be postponed two years in a row (i.e., if a pilot has vacation postponed to the following year, all of the vacation in the following year is unpostponable). The chief pilot will provide the pilot with documentation that his vacation has been postponed and that the vacation credit may be carried over to the following year.
4. A pilot whose vacation is postponed either voluntarily or involuntarily shall receive as much notice as possible of such postponement and shall be compensated for any payments or deposits that are unrecoverable due to the postponement. The pilot will be required to provide documentation of such losses.
THEY CAN NOT CANCEL A VACATION!!! What I heard at the road show from ALPA is ‘Everyone has the provision to cancel vacations”

Jet Blue knocked their very first contract out of the park. I have read their entire agreement as well and ... well and...Never mind.
IT IS NOT ALL ABOUT THE PAY!!!