Originally Posted by theUpsideDown

Which is why I and many others here have made sure to draw a clear line of difference between edv management and dal management.

It's natural for guys to be speculating for answers when we got left this high and dry. Some of these new guys are doing what a lot of first and second year FOs are doing, trying to figure out if a number in line at American is better than waiting for more bad news.

With all that said, I'd echo there's no reason to discount endeavor. The company has been in worse positions and through weird market changes we've suddenly fallen into a perfect spot. It could happen again. Easy to say when I'm not on the bottom or a reserve pilot.