Originally Posted by
Swakid8
I guess you are missing my point, if you are posting this to encourage folks to consider Endeavor, let me remind you.
-They aren’t hiring at the moment
-You get in now, it will be awhile before you see better schedules since most of that will be Reserve in NYC.
-Ther co-domincile in New York has decreased their QOL. Especially on reserve...Folks are over there *****ing....
Again, the grass isn’t always greener...
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If you read my entire post you’ll see that I mentioned Endeavor isn’t hiring, but Republic, ExpressJet, and Skywest are hiring. Their pay with their bonuses (that captains get also) put them in the same ballpark as Endeavor.
And of course you can’t make that kind of money on reserve. In the post I quoted it says he’s on year 2 and 3. But since you brought it up, I would argue that reserve at PSA isn’t much shorter. We’re almost to 1900 pilots with only 135 airplanes. I don’t have the exact number but we’re around 900 total lines (450 for each seat). That means about half of our pilot group is on reserve. Almost everyone is fat on pilots right now so I would say time on reserve is going to be within a few months of each other no matter where you go, with maybe the exception of expressjet.
I will say you make a decent point about the grass isn’t always greener, and Endeavor has a co-domicile in NYC. Although, I would also argue if you live in NYC you probably don’t care, and if you commute I would guess a vast majority of pilots would rather be able to one leg it to NYC compared to a 2 leg commute to one of our outstation bases even if our pay was EQUAL let alone a $40k difference. By your argument maybe I shouldn’t flow to American since most of the new hires are being sent to NYC for their first few months and they have to cover all 3 airports as well. If $40k isn’t worth it to you then what is worth it to you? The only valid argument is if you currently live in one of PSA’s bases and even then $40k is a lot to pass up.
It sounds like you’re completely fine with having some of the lowest pay in the industry since we don’t have an NYC base and everything else is just ok. Maybe that’s why we keep signing concessionary LOAs. We’re filling classes so I guess it’s ok to accept lower pay.
The only way to get any improvements here is for people to know what else is out there. Most of the cadets and RTPs I fly with had no idea what the other airlines are offering because all their information comes from our recruiters. I have several former students that are attending Purdue and they say PSA is the only airline that has recruiters show up on a regular basis. Hmmm, I wonder why......
I hate to knock down positive vibes. I prefer positivity over negativity. But in this case, if everyone at PSA had your attitude we’d be filling classes for eternity and we’d never see any improvements. I guess you’re ok with making less, but I’m not.