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Old 01-01-2019 | 06:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Denti
Yes, Lufthansa mainline on the old contracts can earn that. But the Lufthansa group has 16 different wholly owned AOCs with wildly different payscales. And the old mainline is shrinking rapidly while the cheap ones are growing even faster. They just move 48 A320s under Lufthansa brand to their subsidiary Cityline for lower terms and conditions, grow the Eurowings brand with the lowest paid pilots (including Sunexpress). And Lufthansa mainly voluntary gave up their scope clause in december 2017 while lowering their own conditions by 15%, all that just to get 8 A340s back from Cityline, exchanging them for 48 A320s, which is kinda ironic.

And yes, i have worked with them and their company council, while serving as an union rep in the same union for another company, seeing the drafts and final contracts. And sadly seeing the disaster unfold that is now the completely infighting lufthansa pilot group. Everyone undermining everyone else and racing each other towards worse and worse terms and conditions. Highest entry pay scale for Eurowings brand A330 captains (operated by Sunexpress Germany) is paypoint 8, which is reached with more than 10.000 PIC experience, more than 5000 on type.
What one should take from this post is that Norwegian is hardly the only airline guilty of this, and by no means is even a trailblazer. The tactics used by the management of these airlines may not be desirable, but they are a well established reality in the European airline industry. Singling out Norwegian when the same tactic is being used by virtually every other European airline is an exercise in futility. ALPA's anti-Norwegian campaign was a silly waste of time and money, filled with many falsehoods and misleading statements, and did absolutely nothing to stop or slow this European airline business tactic. Like it or not, it is the reality.
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