Originally Posted by echelon

I'm willing to bet he even believes himself when he says we'll have "scope" and he's probably telling the truth in his own way. Unfortunately, his definition of "scope" and ours are probably two very different things.

The fact is, getting scope that includes limits on seat count, MGTOW, and number of regional airplanes, will be like putting toothpaste back in the tube after AS already gave it away. Ben might be talking about agreeing to keep things status quo without adding RJ's with any more SEATS than they have now, but I guarantee he isn't talking about limiting the size of the fleet, let alone shrinking it, and we're still a year or more's worth of RJ growth/orders away from even negotiating.

He may indeed be willing to give us scope. Industry standard scope... Is another story.