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Old 01-29-2019 | 06:16 AM
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pilotpayne
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Originally Posted by Bluedriver
1. Yes trends CAN change, but you have to look at likelihood based on factors. Frontier is at a different stage of it's evolution, it's much smaller, has a parent company that has deep pockets and literally JUST placed a huge aircraft order.

On the other hand, JB is much larger, has been slow-growing and *slowing* growing for years. We literally JUST deferred (that's the opposite of what Frontier just did) deliveries. I do NOT accept that BlueJet couldn't get all 13 Airbuses this year if BlueJet WANTED them. JB is an extremely important Airbus customer and if JB actually wanted all of it's ordered aircraft this year Airbus would force other smaller companies to eat a D. BlueJet doesn't want to admit they got themselves into a training quagmire, and as you KNOW, BlueJet loves any excuse to defer aircraft. It's literally historical fact.

Those ARE the trends of F9 and B6, and the trend IS your friend. That doesn't mean it's set in stone for eternity, but if you have to place a bet with your own money, the trend is your friend.

2. Europe is a VERY different market. Spirit, Frontier and Allegiant have done very well financially while growing rapidly. Apples and rotten oranges.

3.
I still think you should go into politics as you change things to fit what you want.
Or PR you keep going with your new pet phrase.

has been slow-growing and *slowing* growing for years. I know I know the truth.

I don’t actually know the answer on the NEO it’s entirely possible you are right it’s entirely possible airbus is having issues. We pushed back the NEOs once and everyone freaked but it looked like a good idea after they had issue after issue. Or maybe it’s both. We have a training issue and Airbus has an issue a win win. Point is just because you don’t accept it does not make it so.

Back to the F9 thing my issues of concern were would PHL always stay a base and will they keep growing. That’s a decision based on two things that have the highest odds of changing.
That’s all.

But to avoid a long debate that will get us nothing, I’ll just admit you are right.
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