Originally Posted by
standardrate
thanks for the info. I am also in-between commutair and pdt. Interviewed at pdt and went smooth, but haven't heard anything back. They were implying the flow is 4.5 years average. You are saying more like 10?
In 2019 there should be folks who are flowing right around the 4.5 year mark.
There are supposed to be 772 folks on property in Feb. Number 85 on the list is waiting to flow.
That leaves 687 on property. Flow is 6/ month.
Envoys baseline flow is currently in the 9-10 year range
PSAs baseline flow is over 10.
Actual flow time depends on outside attrition. At Piedmont, it’s been rare to see folks leave after they upgrade to Captain- maybe two per month average until folks get under the three years to flow point and then it’s pretty much only attrition from the flow and retirements from that point.
Out of the half dozen or so people that I know who were eligible for CPP at one of the United partners, only one cleared all the wickets and is at United after he hit his 1000PIC at the company. He went to Commutair and he was on reserve pretty much the whole time since he had some prior airline time and was a junior FO then junior CA then junior LCA. Took him just about 2 years after becoming captain to get to United. Most folks I know who attempted CPP got caught up in Hogan failures (Initial pass rate at one point was 25%). A Hogan single failure adds a minimum of 12 months to your CPP timeline as you wait in the que to be eligible and wait your turn to take it again. Fail it twice and kiss a career at United goodbye apparently.
CPP is a big gamble that can pay off greatly for folks. Unfortunately it’s a minority of folks that make it through. Meanwhile at PDT anyone on property as long as they’re in good standing and have been in their bid status for a year gets to flow.