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Old 02-21-2019, 08:51 AM
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Globemaster2827
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Originally Posted by maxjet View Post
Couldn’t agree more with sentiment of not coming to Atlas as a new hire.

It is a place you could get stuck at as an FO and not build a lot of time.

You would help The current pilots, and the ACMI industry as a whole if you stayed away. The ONLY way the company gets serious, is if they cannot hire pilots.

I couldn’t disagree more with pilots who are leaving and not going to a top tier final workplace airline, just to leave Atlas or Southern. A new contract will come eventually, and Atlas will again be the place to work, as they were in 2012.

Everybody’s situation is different but please stop taking what you read on here as truth. There is usually just enough truth, that it hooks you, and you start to believe the exaggerated parts.

Lastly, it could be a very bad idea for current pilots at Atlas to encourage junior pilots to leave. This is a very destructive road to go down. The company will still continue to hire and replace the lost pilots. The ones you get with lower minimum will make you very uncomfortable when you fly with them. When the contract is settled, there will be growth and these pilots, who should have never been there to begin with, will become Captains. Ball up a couple of aircraft due to poor decision making and a lack of crew experience and you are all suddenly out of work.
I'm glad I agree with you on some stuff!

Just to build on it... Most of those leaving are headed to FedEx, Delta and UPS. There are some leaving for places like JetBlue or Spirit but most of those are very junior. There was a Captain who left for JetBlue last year but I'd agree that it's worth waiting it out if you've got some seniority and that's your best offer.

I definitely saw some weaker FOs when I was walking out the door. Who knows what they'll become but it was certainly worrisome. I don't really think there's much the pilot group can do to avoid it because people will leave for Purple or Brown and management will replace them with.... At this point... Whatever will work there.
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