Originally Posted by
dera
PDT/PSA flow is slower, that's true. Envoy has a good program going on. PDT/PSA will get better, everyone knows that, except the forum negative nancies who think they can run an airline better than their management can.
Your history lesson does not apply to AA. American Eagle has been going on for a very long time. I would be much more concerned if I was at Endeavor or Republic, when a recession hits.
"doesn't offer anything", the flow is pretty darn valuable for a lot of people. I turned down CJOs from Republic and Endeavor to go to Envoy, because their value proposition was the best for me. No regional contract is worth commuting for. And to hold CA within a reasonable commute for me would take years and years at those places. I dodged a huge bullet with them - The people who started indoc the same time I started mine aren't even in sims yet, and I'm almost consolidated. I'm months ahead already.
YX upgrades are sub-2 years only for very uncommutable bases. How long is it to hold YX CA at ORD, or IAH? 7-8 years?
Didn't Envoy's management just ask for concessions from your pilot group? As long as they have a flow, they will never have the same QOL as YX or OO. That's the trade off you make when you chase the carrot.