Originally Posted by
Cujo665
Feel free to *****...
In December 2014 Moak (the ALPA National president at the time) rode into town on his white horse to attend an Envoy MEC meeting in person. He made them turn off all cellphones, ipads, laptops and even disconnected reps who were on teleconference so his speech could not be recorded. He then told the MEC that he had been in contact the Parker and that after 1 & 3/4 years of getting nowhere with a CBA for Envoy he had finally decided to go ahead and Comair Envoy and transfer the flying to PSA & PDT over time. Moak claimed to have used his influence to get one last chance to save Envoy pilots from permanent furlough. That prompted him to attend the MEC meeting in December 2014.
After 1.75 years of contract fighting, in December 2014 I did vote to send the TA to the pilots for a vote.
In fact, the vote to send it to the pilots failed the first time. It was a split vote and I was the deciding No vote.
They had a section in the prelude of whereas statements that said that Envoy ALPA thanks ALPA National for all their help and assistance in obtaining this agreement.
Since my opinion was that ALPA did NOT help us obtain a fair contract, and instead we had more help from the APA fighting Envoy I refused to vote to approve the TA with that in there. The TA failed.
I made a motion to reconsider with a modification. I forced them to remove any and all reference to ALPA national being helpful in obtaining that TA. We then voted again, and it passed by one vote; mine. To this day it is one of the very very few CBA's without a reference to ALPA National.
I think that might qualify me to comment on the contract Dera……
This is all good info, and hard to find too. Thanks for posting it.
Again, I did apologize on the previous page. This subforum just happens to be a bit of a toilet bowl of APC. People post negative crap all the time, even when it's without any factual base "we have the worst reserve rules (no we don't)", "175 FO reserve is over a year! (no it isn't)" and so on, and if you try to inject any positive comments, people start hating on you. It gets old pretty quick.
Your post just happened to be the last one on that page, and my trigger finger was a bit too quick.