Originally Posted by
TankerDriver
The new flows in the 190 aren't too bad. With the Origination Flow, the OM says it will "normally be accomplished by one pilot, normally the FO, but may be acccomplished by either pilot or collaboratively by both pilots.". It's definitely a little confusing if pilots are doing it "collaboratively", which is basically the old way we did it. If you do it "collaboratively", who does what?
Just got off a trip with a Captain who hadn't used the new flows/checklists either and there were definitely growing pains. I would say that whoever's leg it is does the Origination and loads the box while the other pilot goes out and does the exterior, but if you're flying with a Captain who sees "normally done by the first officer" and then the exterior inspection says, "normally accomplished by the first officer" then you've got one dude/dudet doing pretty much everything (the FO).
The new checklists, with the Captain or PF responding first to the challenger was a bit awkward, but by the end of a 4-day it got smoother. I'm still not sure I like it. The Captain is put on the spot with some of the responses, which just requires getting used to having that info out or written down for quick reference. In the past, it was normally just the FO needing to have that stuff readily available.
A lot of the responses by the captain are challenging when taxiing, especially at night. You have to reference things that aren’t easy to see quickly, like the min TO fuel.
I get being standard between fleets but sometimes something’s gotta give.