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04-14-2019, 01:55 AM

#121

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Originally Posted by cactusmike

I think that was Boss Hogg. Another fine legacy US manager. Or Bular. It was one of the two.

Skinner is a cubicle warrior, I’d like to see his actual line experience as a captain.

Are we starting with the old US/AW sh!tshow again? Can someone revive the master east/west hate thread again? This board was getting way too friendly!

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04-14-2019, 07:12 AM

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Originally Posted by cactusmike

I think that was Boss Hogg. Another fine legacy US manager. Or Bular. It was one of the two.

Skinner is a cubicle warrior, I’d like to see his actual line experience as a captain.

I recently flew with Captain Skinner. Excellent, conscientious pilot, and easy to get along with.

04-22-2019, 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by R57 relay

I'm not following you. How do new pilots do new stuff and old pilots do old stuff if we are supposed to be standard?

What I meant was keep it the way it was----before triggers/flows---and new pilots (30-35%) learn the AA way. Not making all of us (100% of pilots) learn a new way. Just an opinion----I follow orders.

04-25-2019, 04:40 AM

#124

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Originally Posted by B757200ER

What I meant was keep it the way it was----before triggers/flows---and new pilots (30-35%) learn the AA way. Not making all of us (100% of pilots) learn a new way. Just an opinion----I follow orders.

Gotcha. For those on the little bus, change coming again in May. Flight control check going back to before takeoff.

04-25-2019, 07:04 AM

#125

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Originally Posted by R57 relay

Gotcha. For those on the little bus, change coming again in May. Flight control check going back to before takeoff.

Huh, that’s one change I kinda liked.

04-25-2019, 08:09 AM

#126

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Originally Posted by R57 relay

Gotcha. For those on the little bus, change coming again in May. Flight control check going back to before takeoff.

There will be others too I'm sure. For example, one I pinged the CKA on during recurrent: CA shutdown flow has Flaps - Check **after** securing second Eng Master. Would be useful during summer in particular to check them first. He admitted they was "one of many items" getting attention. Take that FWIW

04-25-2019, 08:27 AM

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Do you not have a “Flaps up” flow after exiting the runway on the 737? Why do you need flaps on the shutdown checklist?

04-25-2019, 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by DarinFred

Do you not have a “Flaps up” flow after exiting the runway on the 737? Why do you need flaps on the shutdown checklist?

There is technically a flow in OM vI, but it’s not on the poster sized checklist card. Thus, one could argue that a step could be missed until the shutdown checklist. Thoughts?

04-25-2019, 01:18 PM

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Originally Posted by DarinFred

Do you not have a “Flaps up” flow after exiting the runway on the 737? Why do you need flaps on the shutdown checklist?

Yes, but there are two conditions where you don't raise them clearing the runway: if you have ice accretion (stay configured until inspected), and if OAT > 100°F (stop at Flaps-1, until gate arrival). Hence the pre shutdown check, but you will have to spin the electric pump if you shut em both down.