Originally Posted by highfarfast

OK, you guys are reading the union emails differently than I am or the union emails are not matching what's going on.

From the union email on Jan 3rd (regarding the last bid):

"A proffer to displace pilot will only be awarded the leftover / unfilled status(es) that remain after the vacancy portion is run. A 15.G.4 pilot will go wherever his seniority can hold."

/\ I read that to mean a PTD will not displace a junior pilot but a 15.G.4 will.

"For Captains, if you're not currently under a training freeze, you can vacancy bid and/or attempt a proffer to displace. For FOs, there is still no provision to get you from jet-to-jet without a displacement bid. Any displacements occurring on this bid are likely to be from FO to CA only."

/\ on this one, I had forgotten but it appears captains can use the PTD as long as they don't have a training freeze. However, given a PTD will not displace a junior pilot (per first quote), I don't see what the point is for the situation being discussed. But for those 175 FOs that were forced to 145 CA, this is great. As long as they didn't volunteer for the training freeze, this is a free path back to the 175 where they can THEN volunteer for the training freeze.

Then from the same email:

"Here's how it will work:

1. The Company will award vacancies via the normal process: preferences (3P) first, in seniority order.

2. Unfilled Captain vacancies will be noted (if insufficient preference bids).

3. Proffers to displace will then be considered for the unfilled Captain vacancies, in seniority order (from top to bottom). Proffers to displace do not incur a training freeze (seatlock) nor will they incur any sort of flow freeze or flow lock.

4. Once/If all proffers to displace are exhausted and unfilled vacancies remain, the parties will tally the number of unfilled vacancies. Starting at the bottom of the seniority list, the parties will identify a sufficient number of the most junior qualified pilots (working from most junior to most senior) and place them into a pool. The parties will then turn to the most senior pilot in this pool and involuntarily assign him/her to any position that their seniority can hold while respecting displacement preferences (3D)."

I'm not trying to be argumentative but if I don't understand what I'm reading, I'd like to know what I'm missing.

Thanks in advance.