Originally Posted by Cujo665

What does that make Envoy?
No owned planes
No owned gates
No owned terminal
No owned Ground Equipment (That's Envoy Ground Services)
No owned slots
No ticket sales in own name

I actually tried to get ALPA to argue that the Railway Labor Act did not apply to regionals since we were not real airlines. We are staffing companies. That the RLA was written at a time when the outsourced regional business model didn't even exist. For example, you couldn't go threaten an PanAm pilot to take concessions or we'll give your flying to TWA. ALPA actually liked that and began to research if it could have legs to help us in the bankruptcy to stop them from outsourcing the flying (changing the status-quo). They liked it right up until somebody correctly pointed out that while we may just be a training and staffing company.... it is a training & staffing company that holds and FAA Air Carrier Certificate. There ended that legal argument.