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The changes were made from my understanding to help in making training as seamless and integrated between fleets as they can. Not only here but also at the WO carriers as well. I believe they want to get to a point where callouts checklist responses etc are all similar starting at the "cadet" training level, then also in the RJs, and onto the mainline equipment as well.
The idea has merit and is an admirable one. Just because the line pilots don't see the big picture and can't understand why something has been done isn't really their concern. IMO.
I used to work as a CFI at a place that used the airline's procedures in their intial training for private, instrument, etc. Same callouts, similar checklist format and respones, it was great. Guys went from flying a piston twin to a jet at under 200 hours TT. It worked and the pilots were capable and had no problems passing initial type rides. Meanwhile the three highest time guys in my RJ class were asked to leave, two were current turboprop capts on the 1900 and 340.
Ok if our role is to just shut up and go along with every idea from the company with no feedback, then yeah its not our concern. However, the company provides avenues for feedback and even solicits it, so I guess it is a concern. And its a concern for hundreds of others according to ASAPs filed and such.
I still dont buy the seemless and integrated between fleets BS. Show me the data. A story about two guys you know doesn't prove anything. So they wouldnt have been asked to leave if checklists or callouts had been similiar? Thats what it came down too? Or were they just not motivated, have a bad attitude or something else? How many people are flunking out over checklist similiarity? This is just another millenial theory of "feels good".
Probably brought to us by the same blue ribbon panel who is delivering 90 minutes of instructor led Implicit Bias training.
Alot of the beef i have heard isnt necessarily the desire to have similiar checklists or callouts. Its the fact that stuff was removed. Why? What was the gain, saving space? Just put the crap that needs to be done on a damn checklist, let the pilots run it. They could have put out a draft for a month and asked for feedback.
Oh no, the geniuses know best.
Don't put more on memory. When im at the end of a 5 day or distracted, id rather have what needs to be accomplished in front of me, not relying on remembering it from a flow guide or flow reference card.
And i for one dont believe new hires coming to a major need all this coddling. I think they are more than capable of succeeding without all the spoon feeding. But this is the millenial generation, so on second thought, maybe they do need all that.
"To the line"