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Old 05-09-2019 | 06:11 AM
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Originally Posted by rickair7777
There is typically no right or wrong answer to this question, just shades of grey.

None of the app questions that I recall seeing defined CP as being 119/141. Unless otherwise specified ANY job with a title CP (regardless of regs) would be legit as long as the employer granted that title. I think the point of the question is to identify who broke out of the pack into leadership, and that might be useful even in the case of a 20-something flight school CP.

If the question specifies CP under certain FARs, that would be black and white of course.

I was a 141 CP, but also oversaw 61 and some 91 ops. 141 CP is in the regs, but even without that I would have still been a CP and had no reservations about checking the box. If asked, my previous employer would have confirmed that I was the CP.

A CO/DO could reasonably check the box IMO, but I don't think it's safe to do that in all cases, so it's a question of risk vs. reward. I don't think a CO/DO even NEEDS to check the box so why risk it. Very likely that a 119 CP would be on the interview panel, and he might take a more rigid view of what CP means in that context. As in all things with airline apps and interviews, be conservative. They are really not looking for folks who push boundaries in self-promotion.

I think ANY job titled CP in writing would be safe to claim, regulatory or not. I think trying to translate other jobs into the CP title might be too risky. But again shades of grey, do what you're comfortable with.
I don’t see anything about a chief pilot under FAR 141.33, Personnel. I see a chief flight instructor which is different from a chief pilot. What part of 141 are you referring to?
As for Part 91, there is again no regulation on what constitutes a Part 91 CP, their responsibilities or duties nor is it a position that can be inspected by the FAA. So the issue becomes what actually constitutes the duties and responsibilities of someone checking that block. When I check it there is no doubt what my duties consisted of as it was covered under 119 and 135. There is no doubt that I was inspected and if my records weren’t straight my certificate was on the line and my employer faced monetary penalties.
There is employment history on applications and that is where those things belong unless a potential employer states in writing that it’s okay to check that block for other positions. There have been cases of interviews being ended when applicants checked that box and the interviewers did not feel it was warranted.
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