Originally Posted by
pangolin
Yes they undid it.
Yes, they did, although the procedure forbids it.
Originally Posted by
pangolin
At the point they undid it the trim was immobile manually.
Which is irrelevant because the airplane was flyable, had they kept their speed in check.
The trim was controllable, it could be stopped, and whether they could use the trim wheel is irrelevant. If they stopped the trim and never moved it again, they'd be alive, if only they'd flown the airplane and kept their speed, instead of letting the airplane accelerate out of control.
Originally Posted by
pangolin
Yes they should have reduced power.
Yes. Failing to do so killed them.
Originally Posted by
pangolin
Nobody is saying they didn’t make mistakes.
Of course not, because that would be a lie. Their "mistakes" killed them. And everyone else.
Originally Posted by
pangolin
But they were put into that situation by a flawed design that should have never have been implemented or certified.
But, but, but...
There are a lot of "situations" that we wouldn't be in if things didn't break in aircraft.
Our job is to handle "situations" when things go wrong in aircraft.
The Ethiopian mishap was handleable, and it was flyable, and it could have been returned to the runway safely, if the crew had flown the aircraft instead of accelerated to destruction.
If you do not understand this critical and most basic of concepts, then you are a danger and a liability in the cockpit, and you are a passenger, not a pilot.
Sounds like you're getting paid to rack up those frequent flier miles, because you sound nothing like a pilot.