Originally Posted by
CaptCoolHand
I agree with everything you said James. But I think his point was that many of the companies that have some of the best PS now, Had that PS negotiated during a BK. That also included a furlough. There is no correlation for current times.
Maybe if we’d have voted it down we’d have gotten better PS? Maybe better signing bonus? Maybe if we had voted in JBPA back in 2009 we’d be in a better position? Maybe if we’d have voted in ALPA 1.0 we’d be in a better spot.
We got what we got when we got it.
Ya know it sucks we couldn’t get it all in the first run. We asked they said no....
We’ll get em next time...
Frankly I’m a hardline union supporter.
But this is a marathon. Not a sprint. And it’s certainly not a one shot one kill deal. I don’t think you’ll find many guys who think it shouldn’t be better. They’re out there. But there’s not many. But Rome wasn’t built in a day and we’ve got a long row to hoe.
I know I am way junior to many of you who post here, and get derided for my easy-going attitude, but I have not talked to one single pilot, in either seat, who thinks we got a good deal. Not one who thought we could have done better. But I have talked to a bunch who wanted SOMETHING concrete from which to work and move forward with. A contract that could be enforced.
Those who whine about "next time" seem to think that we should have stuck to our guns and demanded more. But the attorneys who have been negotiating contracts longer than many of us have been flying for JB said that the gains in a delay would have been minimal. And it seems 3/4 of the pilots agreed with them.
We are WAY past the point of arguing the merits of CBA 1.0. It is DUN, done. Can we focus on the path ahead? How to improve the CBA, what we want to see for the next round of negotiations?
It may be fun to point out how bad our CBA sucks (for some people), but the reality is that it DOESN'T suck all that much, even according to our 19 year CAs. But it CAN be better, and we need to work towards that. Attacking one another on APC does zero towards achieving a CBA #2 that will improve our QOL.
Edit: This wasn't directed at CoolHand. Just a general observation.