Originally Posted by DoNoHarm

Not sure how PSA hurt the industry considering the pay, QOL, and many other parts of live at PSA are far better than just about anyone else in the industry. (not to mention that everyone that even had a chance to vote on it already flowed to AA except for about 50 "lifers").

It looks like Envoy pilots don't understand negotiating and taking victories when they can get them. Negotiating LOA's and contracts come in many stages, not one massive victory. You will not always get 100% of what you want when negotiating. The trick is to get as much as you can, AND make sure that you are giving up as little as possible.

PSA got SAP in 2013 (which is worth a tremendous amount in terms of QOL), and many other good things (cancellation on leg by leg basis, block or better on a leg by leg basis) in exchange for things that they knew would be fixed later anyways. Fast forward less than 5 years since the contract was signed and all of the so-called concessions (which were just negotiating points, not actually concessions) are gone and PSA is left with what they have now.

PSA is still working on a few things, like improving reserve rules, which the company and Union are working on together, and the Min-Day carveouts and increased flow will be coming soon with the transition to PBS.

Oh, and what about 16% 401k matching while at PSA if the pilots stay until flow as well as sick time buy out contribution to 401K- coming soon to an LOA near you (well, an LOA near you if you work for a company with a base in Dayton).

PSA's current pay raise that they accepted has helped hiring (training department just said that over 80 new pilots in July alone) but it is already diminishing in terms of applicants and interviews. The pay rates alone were not enough as the Union knew that they wouldn't be. They will need to increase flow and make a couple other changes. So, AAG has seen that the pay raises are not going to help long term but PSA pilots are making a lot more money and will continue to do so.