Never said Envoy had a gun to your head. You said AAG had a gun to your head threatening you. Got news pal. EVERY regional management everywhere threatens their pilot group during negotiations. If you continue to roll over your entire career you are of no use to anybody and do not understand trade unionism.

Point of fact, when AAG did finally get their second pound of flesh; they were back within 3 months adding LOA after LOA to restore what they’d taken, and more. Why? Because they couldn’t fill their seats. Which is exactly what we told them would happen.

Closing MIA and NY were mistakesback then that we told the replacement vendors couldn’t staff. We Told them we’d be back in NY within a year. It was a year and one month later when it reopened. The Envoy MEC has been much more accurate at seeing the direction the industry would go than any of the managers. They’re still better at it than AAG.

Another post suggested a friendlier more trusting approach with management. I’d just like to ask how many times that your lied to directly to your face by CEO or VP’s does it take before you trust only what they actually do, not what they say? Every time we trusted them since 1994 we got screwed. Go ask some really senior guys who’ve been there a while the full history of AMR-AAG. At Envoy, it’s still very much an AMR style operation.