Originally Posted by
sailingfun
I have never argued against guys getting paid when they should. What I have stated is that if a rotation is cancelled prior to being awarded there is no pay protection. I suspect Tunes is leaving something out like the trip was actually awarded to the incorrect pilot and was operating at the time of the award.
lets recap:
Originally Posted by
sailingfun
What I have stated is that if a rotation is cancelled prior to being awarded there is no pay protection.
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Originally Posted by
sailingfun
I suspect Tunes is leaving something out like the trip was actually awarded to the incorrect pilot and was operating at the time of the award.
no, i said if they go back because they skipped a step of coverage or passed over a pilot in a step of coverage, there is no pay protection if they fix it per the PWA reference I provided. You said that you are always pay protected if a trip is on your line, that is factually incorrect.
Originally Posted by
3 green
Scheduling is frequently covering trips illegally, and it is up to us to catch them. When you get a reroute try to see if the rerouted segment was known about for 14 or more hours out, If so, it is illegal(unless they could not position a pilot to cover that segment)..There are many other illegal reroutes happening but this is the most common that I see. Also does anyone think they will magically fix the Acars notification system concerning FDP extensions once the busy summer flying is over? Sure worked out well for mgmt pushing this back until the summer flying is over.
yes, the key to 23.L.4.note is that they have to be able to get another pilot there to cover it with legal rest/turn times. Not a specific pilot, just have the ability to do it. If there is a 'hook leg' (the leg inside 14 hours) and the only thing outside the 14 hours is a deadhead that pays every time, there is no requirement to see if a pilot could get there. The payday is when there is no hook. You then get assignment pay for the ‘created rotation’. For example I worked a ‘no hook’ 23.L.4 note last week where the pilot had no legs inside 14 hours but 1 sub 2 hour leg outside of it. Because of how it was structured to get a pilot there to cover it it became a 2 day 10:30 rotation since a layover would have been involved. Original pilot will now get 21:00 extra (10:30 x 2), in addition to his rotation guarantee, for that 1:50ish leg and additionally a 23.m.7 pilot will be identified and paid 10:30