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Old 08-09-2019 | 07:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Slowhawk
I just find it a little weird. I’ve never spent time on oo/Envoy/PSA/Republic threads, well, because I’m not a oo/Envoy/PSA/Republic pilot. Simple as that.

I’ve been on the compass forums for years and it seems any time compass gets a sniff of bad news, there’s a flood of these other regional guys coming to discuss, here on compass threads, which of them will benefit. Likewise, when we have good news or rumors, other regional guys (usually Envoy and oo) come to try to squash it. No disrespect, it’s just weird to me. Like why not just mind your own business and update your apps instead. Must have a lot of free time online.

But those guys are a tiny sample of your diverse pilot groups so I’d never judge a pilot group off such posts, especially as 23 year old regional FO’s tend to be keyboard warriors.

Back to the real topic.. I firmly believe they have *something* coming for us in the next 3 weeks involving new flying. Not sure if we’ll like it, or if it will arrive at the right time, but it’ll be something.

As far as the AA stuff, when I was in MSP in March I spoke to the COO, system chief pilot, and director of operations in person and drilled them about all our flying. The Delta stuff, they avoided the answer and beat around the bush. The American stuff, they very confidently said is fine until AT LEAST 2021. I forget their wording but it auto-renews every 2 years until 2023 and if AA cancels any time before 2023, they have to pay compass as if we operated those flights anyway. Something to the tune of paying us $20M for doing nothing. So I couldn’t explain why AA would rather give it to Envoy, a more expensive pilot group(virtually no one has been at compass for 5+ years), and simultaneously pay compass huge penalty $$ for backing out early. That all said, I’m sure they’d prefer the planes at Envoy, but AA is cheap.

I hear everything your saying but, I would think that the folks over at AA in the legal department can and will get themselves out of our contract at a discounted rate or better if they really wanted/needed to. I think at this point its important for our crews to keep performing on the AA side of the house in conjunction with management getting us some rebound flying in order to keep the wheels turning here at CP.

I also agree with the person who said that we should also be shotgunning apps as insurance at this point.
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