Originally Posted by
goinaround
Oh..... a hateful, condescending post from an ABX pilot......that's new.
Hateful ? I was merely pointing out to potential not so well versed audience that maxjet is an outlier of sorts, and one shouldn't realistically be expected to duplicate mj's K4 career trajectory. I was also indirectly pointing out the folly of touting K4 pay in the same breath as AA (and by extension any other legacy airline) pay.
It appears that my "very good points" weren't well received by MJ. To wit....
"Unhappy with lot in life". Whatever gave you that idea ? See nfd post #432 opener for clarification on this. I'm not unhappy with my lot in life, thank you for your unsolicited advice. Complaints ? My only "complaint" today was that I got too wet on my evening swim. Does pointing out your outlier status (and thus perspective/outlook) plus the folly of AA pay comparisons (point #4) be considered childish ?
Anyway, sorry if I mistook you for the K4 pilot who made $500K. Making that kind of $$ with K4 would require a humongous amount of open flying plus premium multipliers. As in over 1800 hours of pay credit, a lot considering that base guarantee is 804 hours per year , and K4 lacks duty/trip rigs, and MPDP. (except maybe on extra days for later). That needs to be fully understood by prospective pilot, plus cyclical nature of Acmi business where contracts come and go. I know it's feast now, with some posters making over 80 hrs/month on regular line. Then there's some 767 folks only making 64 hr. base guarantee. Feast one moment, famine another. Will one feel the same about their lot at 64 hrs vs 80 hrs.
We can go back and forth on pay comparisons until the cows come home, but the ultimate test of how good a company really is would be my point #4. Namely, in today's historically good free market pilot hiring environment, the airline that gets the most voluntary resignations from peer group can truly be considered the best. Ditto for having the most new hires that stick around several years later. The story of 57 yo AA pilot coming to K4 has piqued my curiosity. I'm genuinely interested in his story, but that's for another thread or day. What is that, 1 out ~15,000 AA pilots ? Another outlier, but not entirely unknown. Well set pilots do retire early to "do something different". Indeed , one AS pilot who contributed articles to various aviation publications retired early to take a CV580 job on some Pacific island several years ago.
My question #4 still stands. If K4 earning/QOL balance is as good as maxjet portrays it to be, shouldn't we see several legacy pilots putting their apps in at K4 ?