I would guess that most newhires as of right now could probably expect quite a bit of time on reserve, just judging by the fact that it has been about a month and a half since the last newhire class started (most junior hire had a class date of 11-19-2007), which is quite a contrast to how it used to be a new hire class every two weeks. While the hiring machine has traditionally slowed down around the holidays, all the signs are pointing in the direction of very minimal growth and attrition, at least for a while. The most current upgrade class on the CRJ has also been cancelled. So, I would predict a slowing in the hiring, and upgrade times to increase significantly from what they were 6 months ago. But as we all know, things can change very quickly, so let us see if the new years brings us any major announcements.